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Call me out for this but imo Expert Negotiator is not as unbalanced as one may suspect. There's good counterplay, and it's got major weaknesses like being utterly useless versus Bosses
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{{BCS power info
{{BCS power info
|id=ExpertNegotiator
|id=ExpertNegotiator
|numeric id=57


|name      =Expert Negotiator
|name      =Expert Negotiator
|image      =BCS ExpertNegotiator CardArt.png
|image      =BCS ExpertNegotiator CardArt.png
|icon      =BCS ExpertNegotiator Icon.png
|description=Target enemy Monkey joins your team
|description=Target enemy Monkey joins your team
|flavor=Every Monkey has a price.
|flavor     =Every Monkey has a price.
 
|pack      =Classic
|class    =Advanced
|rarity    =Rare
|introduced=Full Playable test


|class =Advanced
|rarity=Rare
|cost  =8
|cost  =8
|charges=1
|charges=1
|introduced=Full Playable test
}}
}}
'''Expert Negotiator''' is an [[Power (BCS)|Advanced Power]] card in ''[[Bloons Card Storm]]''. It steals a [[Monkey (BCS)|Monkey]] from the opponent's side and moves it to the player's side. If the player already has all 5 monkey slots filled, then Expert Negotiator will instead delete the monkey it is used on. If successfully transferred to the player's side, the stolen Monkey is always placed onto the available slot at the bottom,<!--finicky wording, but if you steal a Monkey, it always lands on the bottom of the slots no matter what--> and if this Monkey has On Play effects then these effects will trigger again. The stolen Monkey is considered to be owned by the stealer; using [[Return to Sender]] will return the card to them instead.
'''Expert Negotiator''' is an [[Power (BCS)|Advanced Power]] [[card]] in ''[[Bloons Card Storm]]''. It steals a target [[Monkey (BCS)|Monkey]] from the opponent's side and moves it to the player's side. If the player already has all 5 monkey slots filled, then Expert Negotiator instead removes the monkey it is used on. If successfully transferred, the Monkey is always placed on the available slot closest to the bottom, and if this Monkey has On Play effects, then they trigger again. The stolen Monkey is considered owned by the stealer; using [[Return to Sender]] will return the card to their hand, but Card Backs from the original owner will be retained.


The card art depicts [[Agent Jericho]] with a briefcase full of [[Monkey Money]].
The card art depicts [[Agent Jericho]] with a briefcase full of [[Monkey Money]] (in its ''[[Bloons TD 6]]'' design rather than its ''Bloons Card Storm'' design). He is walking on a sidewalk at a city street.


==Tips==
==Tips==
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*Expert Negotiator is best used if your side has space, so you can take advantage of the monkey you stole. Otherwise, it is just a more expensive [[Shrink]] that lacks a [[Baby Monkey]].
*Despite being effective against inexperienced players, Expert Negotiator has many weaknesses; its expensive cost loses time to build resources, is virtually useless against aggro, and may force users to shoehorn themselves into claiming stolen Monkeys. Without the steal function, Expert Negotiator is just a [[Shrink]] that lacks a [[Baby Monkey]] for 3 extra Gold.
*For the best value, use Expert Negotiator on Monkeys that have high long-term value. Good candidates include: [[Jungle's Bounty Druid]], [[Arcane Master]], scaled [[Wizard Monkey (BCS)|Wizard Monkey]]s and [[Spike-o-Pult (BCS)|Spike-o-Pult]]s, Monkeys buffed with [[Try this!]], [[Mine Supervisor]], and most Ultra Rare Monkeys.
*Competitive players often stay away from Expert Negotiator for its inflexibility, preferring other removals like [[Return to Sender]] to stop the opponent from benefiting their Monkeys while also serving additional purposes. Claiming the stolen Monkey means nothing when the opponent can just negate it with another card or an ability and gain net greater value that way.
**If your enemy's side is swarmed with bloons, you can steal a [[Thunder Druid]] to trigger its effect, provided your side still has space.
*If the opponent is currently playing aggressively,<!--sorta thinking midrange but deciding to switch to the aggro side when the opportunity opens--> stealing a Monkey that lacks defense or ammo on the current turn is unwise. Its value diminishes heavily against decks that run cheap expendable Monkeys, and becomes completely useless against Monkeyless decks.
**Be careful if you steal a [[Sun Temple (BCS)|Sun Temple]], because the Sun Temple can sacrifice your monkeys on your side too. However, Sun Temple will gain up to +100 Damage if it sacrifices all four of your other monkeys.
*Target Monkeys with high long-term value. Good candidates include: [[Jungle's Bounty Druid]], [[Dire Wolf]], [[Arcane Master]], scaled [[Wizard Monkey (BCS)|Wizard Monkey]]s and [[Spike-o-Pult (BCS)|Spike-o-Pult]]s, [[Extra-Super Monkey]] (if its ATK is high), Monkeys buffed with [[Try this!]], and most Ultra Rare Monkeys.
*An Expert Negotiator can counter an Expert Negotiator; it's a good way to get your stolen monkeys back.
**Re-playing the On Play effect is best used on [[Bloon Master Alchemist (BCS)|Bloon Master Alchemist]] and [[MOAB Dominator]].<!--rmved thunderdruid; was useful in theory but impractical when better group-poppers exist-->
**If your side has space, stealing Monkeys that modify other Monkeys, such as [[Sun Temple (BCS)|Sun Temple]] and [[Total Transformation Monkey]], can be detrimental unless you can handle that.
*An Expert Negotiator can counter an Expert Negotiator; this helps re-claim stolen monkeys, but heavily slows down aggression.
**Note that an opponent counterplaying an Expert Negotiator may steal one of your more valuable Monkeys instead of their recently stolen Monkey.
**Note that an opponent counterplaying an Expert Negotiator may steal one of your more valuable Monkeys instead of their recently stolen Monkey.
*Keep a note of how many Expert Negotiators the opponent used; if they already used all 3, they will be forced to use other monkey removals to neutralize their stolen Monkeys
*Freeing up a Monkey space for Expert Negotiator is difficult, as filling board space is necessary to survive without much risk. [[Adora (BCS)|Adora]]'s Ultimate Sacrifice ability and [[Salvation]] (also exclusive to Adora) are some reliable options, while any other friendly Monkey removal that frees a space either requires more turns (i.e. waiting for Doomed or emptied Temporary Monkeys) or additional cards that aren't worth using just for the Monkey steal.
*[[Favored Trade]]<!--and parting gift if it ever becomes not horrendous--> can be used for freeing up space for Expert Negotiator. Other viable alternatives include [[Adora (BCS)|Adora]]'s sacrifice ability. [[Parting Gift]] also works, but is a very expensive combo.
**Don't rely on the opponent to leave a space for your side. [[Shrink]] does not leave a space, and only cards like [[Return to Sender]], [[Bed Time]], or Expert Negotiator, or [[Amelia (BCS)|Amelia]]'s Grand Disappearance ability, can do that.
*Expert Negotiator is an expensive power. If the opponent is currently playing aggressively,<!--sorta thinking midrange but deciding to switch to the aggro side when the opportunity opens--> stealing a Monkey that lacks defense or ammo on the current turn is unwise. Likewise, Expert Negotiator is virtually useless against aggro because most aggro decks have few or no Monkeys. It's completely useless versus Bosses, as they can't use Monkeys.
*Many control decks bring Expert Negotiator to prevent the opponent from capitalizing on their Monkeys, as well as benefit the player.


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