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:To elaborate: I do think it would make sense to have separate pages listing game hints and "freeplay modifiers" across the entire BTD series ("List of game hints" and "List of round modifiers"?). The question is, if we have those, is there still value in having the [[List of rounds in BTD6]] page to list rounds and game hints in the same place. Either way, the round modifiers should probably be removed because they aren't specific to the default roundset, they apply to all roundsets. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 23:57, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

::Paging @[[User:Drgoku282|Drgoku282]], since he made the page for FL rounds, so maybe he feels some way about how to reorganize those. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 00:35, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

:Ok since I was called here, these are my thoughts:

:* On the main topic, the issue I'm seeing across most the points above is the fragmentation of the information between things that would go the stats namespace and the main namespace, because it breaks the flow of information, specially on articles where the lack of the roundset would make the article feel incomplete which is the case for ABR and single-game Quests.

:* I have an idea to tackle this, but I'm not convinced that it is good enough:

:* First create a page for all roundsets in stats namespace, we should think about the article name for at least the "most common" roundsets, because I feel "EnduranceRoundSet" would feel weird for the user. These article should only have lede, the roundset list, income, list of events/modes or whatever uses that specific roundset, update history and navigation.

:** I would leave the game hints with the roundset they belong, just like the income, as I think moving them would fragment more the information.

:* Certain articles would be allowed to list rounds outside of the stats namespace for several reasons, for example:

:** Those that would feel incomplete without them (ABR, Quests, including Alternate CHIMPOPPABLE, which would just list ABR for consistency in this case), these should only get the roundset list and the income list.

:** In some the information can be presented in a better way, for example, in the [[Bloon Encounter (Rogue Legends)]] article, we could or could not present a collapsed table with the regular roundset, and then all the variants using the comparison thing and a hat leading to the complete set. Same thing for Bosses, have only the comparison from the main set and a hat.

:** Like we do with stats section for regular towers, we could use a hat to lead the user to more information in the stats namespace.

:** Frontier is a bit more tricky, but I think [[Bloon Encounter (Frontier Legends)]] already covers the mechanics, so no need to repeat them on the [[List of rounds in Frontier Legends]] article (or in the 6 articles after being divided). But the encounter article would need to have the list of roundsets more visible, I like the [[Bloons TD 6#Lists]] format for linking the 6 sets, and in this case we would consider the reinforcement sets like regular sets for the sake of moving them in the stats namespace, I feel doing something different would create more confusion instead of helping.

:** The links in the legends navigation could point to a category article if we create the sub-categories "Rogue Legends roundsets" and "Frontier Legends roundsets".

:* For the main BTD6 rounds article, I agree that the freeplay stuff should be moved to a different article because it is not excluisve to the main roundset. For the sake of completeness we could just leave a small "Past 140" section pointing to the freeplay article with the main hat and describing the bloon modifiers in general.

:* For the last points a "List of game hints" feels pointless for me, but maybe it would be interesting for some people to see the difference across generations, but I am not for or against it. For "List of round modifiers", isn't that what the [[Freeplay]] article is already trying to do?, I don't know enough about older generations if there are "round modifiers" that are not related to "freeplay", but if that isn't the case, we could just use the freeplay article and separate if the mechanics of some game become complex enough to [[Forum:Determine whether to split the Currency articles into separate pages based on game|split the article]].

:[[User:Drgoku282|Drgoku282]] ([[User talk:Drgoku282|talk]]) 06:54, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

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 :To elaborate: I do think it would make sense to have separate pages listing game hints and "freeplay modifiers" across the entire BTD series ("List of game hints" and "List of round modifiers"?). The question is, if we have those, is there still value in having the [[List of rounds in BTD6]] page to list rounds and game hints in the same place. Either way, the round modifiers should probably be removed because they aren't specific to the default roundset, they apply to all roundsets. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 23:57, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
 ::Paging @[[User:Drgoku282|Drgoku282]], since he made the page for FL rounds, so maybe he feels some way about how to reorganize those. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 00:35, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
+:Ok since I was called here, these are my thoughts:
+:* On the main topic, the issue I'm seeing across most the points above is the fragmentation of the information between things that would go the stats namespace and the main namespace, because it breaks the flow of information, specially on articles where the lack of the roundset would make the article feel incomplete which is the case for ABR and single-game Quests.
+:* I have an idea to tackle this, but I'm not convinced that it is good enough:
+:* First create a page for all roundsets in stats namespace, we should think about the article name for at least the "most common" roundsets, because I feel "EnduranceRoundSet" would feel weird for the user. These article should only have lede, the roundset list, income, list of events/modes or whatever uses that specific roundset, update history and navigation.
+:** I would leave the game hints with the roundset they belong, just like the income, as I think moving them would fragment more the information.
+:* Certain articles would be allowed to list rounds outside of the stats namespace for several reasons, for example:
+:** Those that would feel incomplete without them (ABR, Quests, including Alternate CHIMPOPPABLE, which would just list ABR for consistency in this case), these should only get the roundset list and the income list.
+:** In some the information can be presented in a better way, for example, in the [[Bloon Encounter (Rogue Legends)]] article, we could or could not present a collapsed table with the regular roundset, and then all the variants using the comparison thing and a hat leading to the complete set. Same thing for Bosses, have only the comparison from the main set and a hat.
+:** Like we do with stats section for regular towers, we could use a hat to lead the user to more information in the stats namespace.
+:** Frontier is a bit more tricky, but I think [[Bloon Encounter (Frontier Legends)]] already covers the mechanics, so no need to repeat them on the [[List of rounds in Frontier Legends]] article (or in the 6 articles after being divided). But the encounter article would need to have the list of roundsets more visible, I like the [[Bloons TD 6#Lists]] format for linking the 6 sets, and in this case we would consider the reinforcement sets like regular sets for the sake of moving them in the stats namespace, I feel doing something different would create more confusion instead of helping.
+:** The links in the legends navigation could point to a category article if we create the sub-categories "Rogue Legends roundsets" and "Frontier Legends roundsets".
+:* For the main BTD6 rounds article, I agree that the freeplay stuff should be moved to a different article because it is not excluisve to the main roundset. For the sake of completeness we could just leave a small "Past 140" section pointing to the freeplay article with the main hat and describing the bloon modifiers in general.
+:* For the last points a "List of game hints" feels pointless for me, but maybe it would be interesting for some people to see the difference across generations, but I am not for or against it. For "List of round modifiers", isn't that what the [[Freeplay]] article is already trying to do?, I don't know enough about older generations if there are "round modifiers" that are not related to "freeplay", but if that isn't the case, we could just use the freeplay article and separate if the mechanics of some game become complex enough to [[Forum:Determine whether to split the Currency articles into separate pages based on game|split the article]].
+:[[User:Drgoku282|Drgoku282]] ([[User talk:Drgoku282|talk]]) 06:54, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
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