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I attempted to create a page about the currently popular flag meme, but it got deleted for "page created by troll", which is rude and goes against your statement in the about page: "Blooncyclopedia is an online knowledge base dedicated to documenting anything and everything about Ninja Kiwi's Bloons franchise." Memes are a part of a franchise, like it or not, so I thought it would be a welcome addition. Also an image file I uploaded to use on that page also got deleted for "stolen image uploaded without attribution" when I clearly stated the author in the file information. Please reevaluate the deletions. Thank you. [[User:Bloon|Bloon]] ([[User talk:Bloon|talk]]) 18:24, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

:I already discussed this with staff. The reason the patroller gave for marking the image and page for deletion was wrong and they assumed good faith per the [[BCP:Code of conduct|code of conduct]], so I apologize on their behalf. However, I don't agree with memes being part of the franchise, because they aren't official. By that logic, every fan game, fan art, let's play, custom map, and post on r/btd6 is "part of the franchise".

:I already discussed this with staff. The reason the patroller gave for marking the image and page for deletion was wrong and they should've assumed good faith per the [[BCP:Code of conduct|code of conduct]], so I apologize on their behalf. However, I don't agree with memes being part of the franchise, because they aren't official. By that logic, every fan game, fan art, let's play, custom map, and post on r/btd6 is "part of the franchise".

:Right now the only unofficial content we cover are certain self-imposed challenges that have some kind of official acknowledgement (e.g., [[NAPS]]). If you want to expand that, I would suggest creating a proposal. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 18:37, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

::I would agree with Polavux's reasoning. It can be difficult to differentiate someone who started editing a wiki with a gray area topic from someone who created their account just to cause damage or disruption. Even though this wiki usually documents official content, it may also open up to documenting officially acknowledged community content that is very significant in some way. Some may get their own articles, while some are sufficient enough to be a trivia entry. [[User:Hubianzhen|Hubianzhen]] ([[User talk:Hubianzhen|talk]]) 19:12, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

:::{{blockquote|It can be difficult to differentiate someone who started editing a wiki with a gray area topic from someone who created their account just to cause damage or disruption.}}

:::That's not an excuse for calling someone a troll, though. That's why we have a code of conduct. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 19:16, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

::::It's a misunderstanding. [[User:Hubianzhen|Hubianzhen]] ([[User talk:Hubianzhen|talk]]) 19:28, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

::::There was no proper justification, just confusion. We did not know how to handle situations like this effectively. If you believed I made an excuse, you have my permission to issue me a warning. [[User:Hubianzhen|Hubianzhen]] ([[User talk:Hubianzhen|talk]]) 19:45, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

:::::What do you mean "we"? You're not staff. Yes, it was a misunderstanding, but even in that situation there was no reason to assume this person was a troll. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 20:02, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

::::::The people involved in the situation, not just staff alone. Should've made it clear. [[User:Hubianzhen|Hubianzhen]] ([[User talk:Hubianzhen|talk]]) 20:08, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

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 I attempted to create a page about the currently popular flag meme, but it got deleted for "page created by troll", which is rude and goes against your statement in the about page: "Blooncyclopedia is an online knowledge base dedicated to documenting anything and everything about Ninja Kiwi's Bloons franchise." Memes are a part of a franchise, like it or not, so I thought it would be a welcome addition. Also an image file I uploaded to use on that page also got deleted for "stolen image uploaded without attribution" when I clearly stated the author in the file information. Please reevaluate the deletions. Thank you. [[User:Bloon|Bloon]] ([[User talk:Bloon|talk]]) 18:24, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
-:I already discussed this with staff. The reason the patroller gave for marking the image and page for deletion was wrong and they assumed good faith per the [[BCP:Code of conduct|code of conduct]], so I apologize on their behalf. However, I don't agree with memes being part of the franchise, because they aren't official. By that logic, every fan game, fan art, let's play, custom map, and post on r/btd6 is "part of the franchise".
+:I already discussed this with staff. The reason the patroller gave for marking the image and page for deletion was wrong and they should've assumed good faith per the [[BCP:Code of conduct|code of conduct]], so I apologize on their behalf. However, I don't agree with memes being part of the franchise, because they aren't official. By that logic, every fan game, fan art, let's play, custom map, and post on r/btd6 is "part of the franchise".
 :Right now the only unofficial content we cover are certain self-imposed challenges that have some kind of official acknowledgement (e.g., [[NAPS]]). If you want to expand that, I would suggest creating a proposal. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 18:37, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
+::I would agree with Polavux's reasoning. It can be difficult to differentiate someone who started editing a wiki with a gray area topic from someone who created their account just to cause damage or disruption. Even though this wiki usually documents official content, it may also open up to documenting officially acknowledged community content that is very significant in some way. Some may get their own articles, while some are sufficient enough to be a trivia entry. [[User:Hubianzhen|Hubianzhen]] ([[User talk:Hubianzhen|talk]]) 19:12, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
+:::{{blockquote|It can be difficult to differentiate someone who started editing a wiki with a gray area topic from someone who created their account just to cause damage or disruption.}}
+:::That's not an excuse for calling someone a troll, though. That's why we have a code of conduct. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 19:16, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
+::::It's a misunderstanding. [[User:Hubianzhen|Hubianzhen]] ([[User talk:Hubianzhen|talk]]) 19:28, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
+::::There was no proper justification, just confusion. We did not know how to handle situations like this effectively. If you believed I made an excuse, you have my permission to issue me a warning. [[User:Hubianzhen|Hubianzhen]] ([[User talk:Hubianzhen|talk]]) 19:45, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
+:::::What do you mean "we"? You're not staff. Yes, it was a misunderstanding, but even in that situation there was no reason to assume this person was a troll. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 20:02, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
+::::::The people involved in the situation, not just staff alone. Should've made it clear. [[User:Hubianzhen|Hubianzhen]] ([[User talk:Hubianzhen|talk]]) 20:08, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

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