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*I'm also not sure what to do about the ABR roundset. Technically, it is used outside of ABR, since it's also the roundset of [[Alternate CHIMPOPPABLE]], but that quest is presented as a combination of three modes, so even if it technically isn't ABR, it's still intuitive to the average reader to go to the ABR page to see what rounds are in that quest. I think fragmenting that information is unhelpful, even if for the sake of consistency. Theoretically, NK could make an event that uses the ABR roundset on a non-ABR mode, which would be enough to warrant separating the roundset to a different page in my opinion, but I don't want to make decisions based on something that might not ever happen.

*I think the legends roundsets can go in the stats namespace too. Personally, I'm not a fan of having to list every single Rogue Legends roundset in one page (especially since you have to collapse most of the tables to make the page more navigable, which I'm not a fan of since it interferes with CTRL+F searching), and I would prefer to have separate pages for them, especially now that there's a comparison mode of the rounds module that would be useful for showing the differences in the alternate roundsets. For the Frontier Legends roundsets, I feel the same way about the base roundsets.

::I think the FL rush roundsets and mechanics should go on its own mainspace page about Bloon Reinforcements instead. After all, the rush roundsets aren't used like normal roundsets, since the encounters pick out specific rounds to spawn instead of doing them in sequence, so giving those their own roundset pages just doesn't sit right with me. Treating them as normal roundsets would be like structuring the [[Sheriff (BTD6)]] page in the same way as Hero pages just because he technically is one. It'd also be more intuitive to describe the mechanics of reinforcements in a non-list page, since list pages aren't really supposed to be where we describe game mechanics, in my opinion.

**I think the FL rush roundsets and mechanics should go on its own mainspace page about Bloon Reinforcements instead. After all, the rush roundsets aren't used like normal roundsets, since the encounters pick out specific rounds to spawn instead of doing them in sequence, so giving those their own roundset pages just doesn't sit right with me. Treating them as normal roundsets would be like structuring the [[Sheriff (BTD6)]] page in the same way as Hero pages just because he technically is one. It'd also be more intuitive to describe the mechanics of reinforcements in a non-list page, since list pages aren't really supposed to be where we describe game mechanics, in my opinion.

*Right now, all of the quest-exclusive roundsets are only listed on the quest pages. Since most of them are only used once, and people are probably going to go to the page for a quest to find out what the rounds are instead of searching the database, I think these shouldn't get their own pages. Usually these roundsets are intertwined with the structure of the quest, so fragmenting that information just for the sake of consistency feels wrong. It feels like a similar situation to the ABR roundset. Alternatively, we could create a stats page that displays all of the quest-exclusive roundsets, but I'm not sure what the benefit of that would be. Again, since they're structured specifically for the quests, it probably isn't very useful to have them all in one place for comparison. Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe there's some use case I'm not seeing.

**Same goes for the boss roundsets. We could display all of them in one page in the stats namespace, but I don't know what purpose that would serve.

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Other perspectives on this issue would be greatly appreciated. :sunglasses: [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 10:30, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

:To elaborate: I do think it would make sense to have separate pages listing game hints and "freeplay modifiers" across the entire BTD series ("List of game hints" and "List of round modifiers"?). The question is, if we have those, is there still value in having the [[List of rounds in BTD6]] page to list rounds and game hints in the same place. ~~Even if so~~, the round modifiers should probably be removed because they aren't specific to the default roundset, they apply to all roundsets. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 23:57, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

:To elaborate: I do think it would make sense to have separate pages listing game hints and "freeplay modifiers" across the entire BTD series ("List of game hints" and "List of round modifiers"?). The question is, if we have those, is there still value in having the [[List of rounds in BTD6]] page to list rounds and game hints in the same place. Either way, the round modifiers should probably be removed because they aren't specific to the default roundset, they apply to all roundsets. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 23:57, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

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 *I'm also not sure what to do about the ABR roundset. Technically, it is used outside of ABR, since it's also the roundset of [[Alternate CHIMPOPPABLE]], but that quest is presented as a combination of three modes, so even if it technically isn't ABR, it's still intuitive to the average reader to go to the ABR page to see what rounds are in that quest. I think fragmenting that information is unhelpful, even if for the sake of consistency. Theoretically, NK could make an event that uses the ABR roundset on a non-ABR mode, which would be enough to warrant separating the roundset to a different page in my opinion, but I don't want to make decisions based on something that might not ever happen.
 *I think the legends roundsets can go in the stats namespace too. Personally, I'm not a fan of having to list every single Rogue Legends roundset in one page (especially since you have to collapse most of the tables to make the page more navigable, which I'm not a fan of since it interferes with CTRL+F searching), and I would prefer to have separate pages for them, especially now that there's a comparison mode of the rounds module that would be useful for showing the differences in the alternate roundsets. For the Frontier Legends roundsets, I feel the same way about the base roundsets.
-::I think the FL rush roundsets and mechanics should go on its own mainspace page about Bloon Reinforcements instead. After all, the rush roundsets aren't used like normal roundsets, since the encounters pick out specific rounds to spawn instead of doing them in sequence, so giving those their own roundset pages just doesn't sit right with me. Treating them as normal roundsets would be like structuring the [[Sheriff (BTD6)]] page in the same way as Hero pages just because he technically is one. It'd also be more intuitive to describe the mechanics of reinforcements in a non-list page, since list pages aren't really supposed to be where we describe game mechanics, in my opinion.
+**I think the FL rush roundsets and mechanics should go on its own mainspace page about Bloon Reinforcements instead. After all, the rush roundsets aren't used like normal roundsets, since the encounters pick out specific rounds to spawn instead of doing them in sequence, so giving those their own roundset pages just doesn't sit right with me. Treating them as normal roundsets would be like structuring the [[Sheriff (BTD6)]] page in the same way as Hero pages just because he technically is one. It'd also be more intuitive to describe the mechanics of reinforcements in a non-list page, since list pages aren't really supposed to be where we describe game mechanics, in my opinion.
 *Right now, all of the quest-exclusive roundsets are only listed on the quest pages. Since most of them are only used once, and people are probably going to go to the page for a quest to find out what the rounds are instead of searching the database, I think these shouldn't get their own pages. Usually these roundsets are intertwined with the structure of the quest, so fragmenting that information just for the sake of consistency feels wrong. It feels like a similar situation to the ABR roundset. Alternatively, we could create a stats page that displays all of the quest-exclusive roundsets, but I'm not sure what the benefit of that would be. Again, since they're structured specifically for the quests, it probably isn't very useful to have them all in one place for comparison. Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe there's some use case I'm not seeing.
 **Same goes for the boss roundsets. We could display all of them in one page in the stats namespace, but I don't know what purpose that would serve.
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 Other perspectives on this issue would be greatly appreciated. :sunglasses: [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 10:30, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
-:To elaborate: I do think it would make sense to have separate pages listing game hints and "freeplay modifiers" across the entire BTD series ("List of game hints" and "List of round modifiers"?). The question is, if we have those, is there still value in having the [[List of rounds in BTD6]] page to list rounds and game hints in the same place. Even if so, the round modifiers should probably be removed because they aren't specific to the default roundset, they apply to all roundsets. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 23:57, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
+:To elaborate: I do think it would make sense to have separate pages listing game hints and "freeplay modifiers" across the entire BTD series ("List of game hints" and "List of round modifiers"?). The question is, if we have those, is there still value in having the [[List of rounds in BTD6]] page to list rounds and game hints in the same place. Either way, the round modifiers should probably be removed because they aren't specific to the default roundset, they apply to all roundsets. [[User:Polavux|Polavux]] ([[User talk:Polavux|talk]]) 23:57, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

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