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→Tips: you cannot deny that inexperienced users hate this card, but funnily enough competitive players don't seem to favor it at all. it is mostly that type of card that hurts the inexperienced but is pretty bad against an experienced one. order of bulletpoints are based on how to deal with exneg (favors new players trying to look for how to beat exneg) and then its flaws
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→Tips: the tips will focus moreso on how to counter it, and I deliberately kept the "don't rely opponent, but if they do leave a space these cards and abilities do that" because it's more ways to de-value the exneg. Exneg is, from my experience, oppressive against inexperienced players, but never competitively viable.
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==Tips==
==Tips==
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{{cleanup|Rewrite and organize the section to emphasize its major weaknesses in competitive gameplay (it's "good" against inexperienced players but never seems good in competitive decks)}}
*Despite being effective against inexperienced players, Expert Negotiator has many weaknesses; its expensive cost hampers time to build resources, is virtually useless against aggro, and may force users to shoehorn themselves into claiming stolen Monkeys. Without the steal function, Expert Negotiator is just a [[Shrink]] that lacks a [[Baby Monkey]] for 3 extra Gold.
*Expert Negotiator is best used if your side has space, so you can take advantage of the monkey you stole. Otherwise, it is just a more expensive [[Shrink]] that lacks a [[Baby Monkey]]. Despite being effective against inexperienced players, Expert Negotiator has many weaknesses; its expensive cost hampers time to build resources, is virtually useless against aggro, and may force users to shoehorn themselves into claiming stolen Monkeys.
*Competitive players often stay away from Expert Negotiator for its inflexibility, preferring other removals like [[Return to Sender]] to stop the opponent from benefiting their Monkeys while also serving additional purposes. Claiming the stolen Monkey means nothing when the opponent can just negate it with another card or an ability and gain net greater value that way.
*For the best value, use Expert Negotiator on Monkeys that have high long-term value. Good candidates include: [[Jungle's Bounty Druid]], [[Dire Wolf]], [[Arcane Master]], scaled [[Wizard Monkey (BCS)|Wizard Monkey]]s and [[Spike-o-Pult (BCS)|Spike-o-Pult]]s, [[Extra-Super Monkey]] (if its ATK is high), Monkeys buffed with [[Try this!]], and most Ultra Rare Monkeys.
*If the opponent is currently playing aggressively,<!--sorta thinking midrange but deciding to switch to the aggro side when the opportunity opens--> stealing a Monkey that lacks defense or ammo on the current turn is unwise. Its value diminishes heavily against decks that run cheap expendable Monkeys, and becomes completely useless against Monkeyless decks.
**Re-playing the On Play effect is best used on [[Bloon Master Alchemist (BCS)|Bloon Master Alchemist]] and [[MOAB Dominator]]. It's okay on [[Thunder Druid]], but many other cards are better board clears, so only steal this if you've got no better options in your hand.
*Target Monkeys with high long-term value. Good candidates include: [[Jungle's Bounty Druid]], [[Dire Wolf]], [[Arcane Master]], scaled [[Wizard Monkey (BCS)|Wizard Monkey]]s and [[Spike-o-Pult (BCS)|Spike-o-Pult]]s, [[Extra-Super Monkey]] (if its ATK is high), Monkeys buffed with [[Try this!]], and most Ultra Rare Monkeys.
*Be careful before stealing Monkeys that forcibly modify your Monkeys if your side still has space. Avoid stealing [[Sun Temple (BCS)|Sun Temple]] and [[Total Transformation Monkey]] if your side has valuable Monkeys.
**Re-playing the On Play effect is best used on [[Bloon Master Alchemist (BCS)|Bloon Master Alchemist]] and [[MOAB Dominator]].<!--rmved thunderdruid; was useful in theory but impractical when better group-poppers exist-->
*An Expert Negotiator can counter an Expert Negotiator; it's a good way to get your stolen monkeys back.
**If your side has space, stealing Monkeys that modify other Monkeys, such as [[Sun Temple (BCS)|Sun Temple]] and [[Total Transformation Monkey]], can be detrimental unless you can handle that.
*An Expert Negotiator can counter an Expert Negotiator; this helps re-claim stolen monkeys, but heavily slows down aggression.
**Note that an opponent counterplaying an Expert Negotiator may steal one of your more valuable Monkeys instead of their recently stolen Monkey.
**Note that an opponent counterplaying an Expert Negotiator may steal one of your more valuable Monkeys instead of their recently stolen Monkey.
*Freeing up a Monkey space for Expert Negotiator is difficult, as filling board space is necessary to survive without much risk. [[Adora (BCS)|Adora]]'s sacrifice ability, and [[Salvation]] (also exclusive to Adora), and [[Favored Trade]] are some effective options.
*Freeing up a Monkey space for Expert Negotiator is difficult, as filling board space is necessary to survive without much risk. [[Adora (BCS)|Adora]]'s sacrifice ability and [[Salvation]] (also exclusive to Adora) are some reliable options, while any other friendly Monkey removal that frees a space either requires more turns (i.e. waiting for Doomed or emptied Temporary Monkeys) or additional cards that aren't worth using just for the Monkey steal.
** Other cards are less recommended but still work. [[Parting Gift]] is a generally weak card, [[Return to Sender]] is better used to counter enemies or return own Monkeys with valuable On Play effects, and Temporary/Doomed Monkeys require another turn to open a Monkey space.
**Don't rely on the opponent to leave a space for your side. But if they do, an enemy Bed Time, Expert Negotiator, Amelia's Grand Disappearance, or a Monkey-popped [[Toxic Bloon]] can also open a Monkey space for Expert Negotiator.
**Enemy cards such as Bed Time or Expert Negotiator, or Amelia's Grand Disappearance, or in some cases a [[Toxic Bloon]] popped by one of your Monkeys, can also open a Monkey space for Expert Negotiator.
*Expert Negotiator is an expensive power. If the opponent is currently playing aggressively,<!--sorta thinking midrange but deciding to switch to the aggro side when the opportunity opens--> stealing a Monkey that lacks defense or ammo on the current turn is unwise. Its value diminishes heavily against decks that run cheap expendable Monkeys, and becomes completely useless against Monkeyless decks.
*Competitive players often stay away from Expert Negotiator for its inflexibility, preferring other removals like [[Return to Sender]] to stop the opponent from benefiting their Monkeys while also serving additional purposes. Claiming the stolen Monkey means nothing when the opponent can just negate it with another card or an ability and gain net greater value that way.


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