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'''Stronger Stimulant''' is the [[Alchemist (BTD6)|Alchemist]]'s path 1 tier 4 [[upgrade]] in ''[[Bloons TD 6]]''. It improves the [[Berserker Brew (BTD6)|Berserker Brew]] buff potion by increasing the [[pierce]] of affected towers by +3 instead of +2, increasing [[range]] by +15% instead of +10%, and decreases [[attack cooldown]] by 15% instead of 10% (for an attack speed increase of ~17.6%). It also increases the duration of the Berserker Brew potion to 40 shots or 12 seconds, whichever is shorter. | '''Stronger Stimulant''' is the [[Alchemist (BTD6)|Alchemist]]'s path 1 tier 4 [[upgrade]] in ''[[Bloons TD 6]]''. It improves the [[Berserker Brew (BTD6)|Berserker Brew]] buff potion by increasing the [[pierce]] of affected towers by +3 instead of +2, increasing [[range]] by +15% instead of +10%, and decreases [[attack cooldown]] by 15% instead of 10% (for an attack speed increase of ~17.6%). It also increases the duration of the Berserker Brew potion to 40 shots or 12 seconds (55 shots or 13 seconds with 4-2-0), whichever is shorter. | ||
Stronger Stimulant's buff cannot stack with that of Berserker Brew or [[Permanent Brew (BTD6)|Permanent Brew]]. | Stronger Stimulant's buff cannot stack with that of Berserker Brew or [[Permanent Brew (BTD6)|Permanent Brew]]. | ||
==Stats== | ==Stats== | ||
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Stronger Stimulant | Stronger Stimulant gives a slightly stronger buff (+~6% faster attack speed, +1 pierce) and much higher buff uptime. It excels when it has one very strong tower to buff that appreciates the extra speed and pierce. Compared to a pair of Berserker Brews, it can get higher potion uptime on slow-attacking towers, but the extra {{BTD6|Acidic Mixture Dip}} benefits these slow-attacking towers more, and Berserker Brews can be fully discounted. | ||
Stronger Stimulant also gives a higher shot limit compared to Berserker Brew, but with careful setup 2 3-2-0 Brews can be isolated to get a higher effective shot limit compared to Stronger Stimulant. Here, Stronger Stimulant's advantages are its easier use, since it does not need to be isolated in this context, and the stronger buff. For instance, {{BTD6|The Tack Zone}} enjoys both the higher shot limit and the extra point of pierce to make Stronger Stimulant better in this context. | |||
A 4-0-0 Stronger Stimulant under {{BTD6|Jungle Drums}} without MK gets 176% uptime (i.e. 88% uptime on two towers). 4-2-0 gets 191% uptime, while 4-0-1 gets 221% uptime (or 74% uptime on three towers). Since the first tower buffed is generally most important, 4-2-0 is the better crosspath without MK, or if the buffed tower burns through the shot limit quickly. With MK, 4-0-0 limits the buffs to two towers while either crosspath will buff a third tower. If Jungle Drums and MK are both banned, 4-0-1 becomes useful on slow-attacking towers. {{BTD6|Acid Pool}} is never used due to not affecting the buffs.<!-- AMD uptime is never the reason to crosspath Stim, since you can just buy a second AMD --> | |||
==Update history== | ==Update history== | ||
Latest revision as of 05:12, 4 November 2025
For the upgrade in Bloons TD Battles 2, see Stronger Stimulant (Battles 2).
Stronger Stimulant
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Extra strong berserker brew has even more powerful effect on the target. Lasts even longer. | ||
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| Alchemist | 1 | 4 | |
| XP cost | 10,000 | ||
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| Cash cost | $2,420 — Easy $2,850 — Medium $3,080 — Hard $3,420 — Impoppable | ||
Stronger Stimulant is the Alchemist's path 1 tier 4 upgrade in Bloons TD 6. It improves the Berserker Brew buff potion by increasing the pierce of affected towers by +3 instead of +2, increasing range by +15% instead of +10%, and decreases attack cooldown by 15% instead of 10% (for an attack speed increase of ~17.6%). It also increases the duration of the Berserker Brew potion to 40 shots or 12 seconds (55 shots or 13 seconds with 4-2-0), whichever is shorter.
Stronger Stimulant's buff cannot stack with that of Berserker Brew or Permanent Brew.
Stats
[edit | edit source]For a complete list of Alchemist stats, see Stats:Alchemist (BTD6).
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Costs and sell values
[edit | edit source]Note: this list does not factor in Monkey Knowledge or other discounts.
| Tiers | Total cost | Sell value | ||||||
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| Easy | Medium | Hard | Impoppable | Easy | Medium | Hard | Impoppable | |
| 4-0-0 | $4,585 | $5,400 | $5,835 | $6,480 | $3,210 | $3,780 | $4,085 | $4,536 |
| 4-1-0 | $4,795 | $5,650 | $6,105 | $6,780 | $3,357 | $3,955 | $4,274 | $4,746 |
| 4-2-0 | $5,200 | $6,125 | $6,620 | $7,350 | $3,640 | $4,288 | $4,634 | $5,145 |
| 4-0-1 | $5,135 | $6,050 | $6,535 | $7,260 | $3,595 | $4,235 | $4,575 | $5,082 |
| 4-0-2 | $5,515 | $6,500 | $7,020 | $7,800 | $3,861 | $4,550 | $4,914 | $5,460 |
Strategy
[edit | edit source]This section was last updated for: version 51.2
Stronger Stimulant gives a slightly stronger buff (+~6% faster attack speed, +1 pierce) and much higher buff uptime. It excels when it has one very strong tower to buff that appreciates the extra speed and pierce. Compared to a pair of Berserker Brews, it can get higher potion uptime on slow-attacking towers, but the extra Acidic Mixture Dip benefits these slow-attacking towers more, and Berserker Brews can be fully discounted.
Stronger Stimulant also gives a higher shot limit compared to Berserker Brew, but with careful setup 2 3-2-0 Brews can be isolated to get a higher effective shot limit compared to Stronger Stimulant. Here, Stronger Stimulant's advantages are its easier use, since it does not need to be isolated in this context, and the stronger buff. For instance, The Tack Zone enjoys both the higher shot limit and the extra point of pierce to make Stronger Stimulant better in this context.
A 4-0-0 Stronger Stimulant under Jungle Drums without MK gets 176% uptime (i.e. 88% uptime on two towers). 4-2-0 gets 191% uptime, while 4-0-1 gets 221% uptime (or 74% uptime on three towers). Since the first tower buffed is generally most important, 4-2-0 is the better crosspath without MK, or if the buffed tower burns through the shot limit quickly. With MK, 4-0-0 limits the buffs to two towers while either crosspath will buff a third tower. If Jungle Drums and MK are both banned, 4-0-1 becomes useful on slow-attacking towers. Acid Pool is never used due to not affecting the buffs.
Update history
[edit | edit source]For a complete list of Alchemist changes, see Update history:Alchemist (BTD6).
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Acidic Mixture Dip: No longer targets Nature's Ward Totems (bug fix)- Acidic Mixture Dip: Now allows towers to damage DDTs (bug fix)
Acidic Mixture Dip: Can now target 5-X-X Monkey Villages (bug fix)- Berserker Brew: No longer causes Phoenixes to stop attacking (bug fix)
- AMD: No longer targets Benjamin
- Note: Brews still target Level 7+ Benjamin
- Can no longer apply dip to Monkey Villages without Primary Expertise (bug fix)
Brew: no longer applies the range buff twice (bug fix)
- Can no longer apply dip to Banana Farms (bug fix)
- Brew now wears off after 50 attacks, in addition to wearing off on its own after enough time elapses
- Note: Does not carry over to Permanent Brew
- Acidic Mixture Dip buff: no longer applies +1 damage to Ceramics or MOAB-Class (bug)
- Acidic Mixture Dip buff: now has a visual effect on buffed towers
- "Buffs should no longer miss their target and buff another tower nearby" (bug fix)
- Berserker Brew buff: no longer ignores towers that are already buffed (bug)
- Berserker Brew buff: now has a visual effect on buffed towers
- Acidic Mixture Dip buff: now applies +1 damage to Ceramic and MOAB-Class Bloons (bug fix)
Now only shows a buff icon when AMD is applied
| “ | Alchemist is already widely used, but we thought of an interesting way to add some more crosspath value and wanted to take the chance to perform a small rebalance at the same time. — Update notes |
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- Stronger Stimulant: shots per brew reduced ― 50 → 40
- Note: 420 crosspath unchanged
- 4-2-0
- Stronger Stimulant: re-application cooldown reduced ― 5s → 4s
- Stronger Stimulant: duration increased ― 12s → 13s
| “ | Follow up steps in overall balancing use of the 420 and 402 alchemist upgrades, this brings both combinations more in-line for total cost. — Update notes |
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- Upgrade cost increased ― $2,500 → $3,000
| “ | Alchemist has been given a small push towards the current underused Brew crosspath. Previously this crosspath only applied a benefit to Brew & Stimulant but now along with a buff to that, Acidic Mixture Dip will also gain a slight benefit from the crosspath. — Update notes |
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- 4-2-0
- Acidic Mixture Dip: charges per stack increased ― 10 → 13
- Stronger Stimulant: charges per stack increased ― 50 → 55 (undocumented)
- Acidic Mixture Dip: now allows Cold attacks to damage Lead Bloons (bug fix)
- Acidic Mixture Dip: now allows Sharp attacks to damage Golden Bloons (bug fix)
- Acidic Mixture Dip: no longer allows Explosion attacks to damage DDTs (bug fix)
- 4-0-1, 4-0-2
- Faster Throwing crosspath once again increases the rate of the Brew attack (bug fix)
| “ | Acidic Mixture Dip did nothing for Glue Gunners but alchemist would waste it on them — Update notes |
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- Acidic Mixture Dip will no longer pick Glue Gunners as valid buff targets
- Base potion attack: no longer has single-layer damage (undocumented)
| “ | Acidic Mixture Dip stacking from multiple alchemists / stalling tactics too effectively lowered use of other lead counter options in a way we didn’t like, so the maximum stacks here without Permabrew has been reduced considerably. — Update notes |
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- Acidic Mixture Dip max number of stacks reduced ― 200 → 40
| “ | Alchemist 220 stands out a little too effectively in the crosspath efficiency of Acidic Mixture Dip uptime combined with the reduced forced downtime at 320 and so is being reduced. — Update notes |
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- 4-2-0
- Perishing Potions bonus to Acidic Mixture dip reduced ― +3 → +2
- Note: Shot amount reduced from 13 to 12
| “ | Acidic Mixture Dip is a strong offender removing many weaknesses in the game for exceptionally low of a cost. — Update notes |
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- Acidic Mixture dip max stacks reduced ― 40 → 30
| “ | As groups of Berserker Brew seem proportionally too good compared to upgrading to Stronger Stimulant in some cases, we are slightly shifting price down into T3, keeping the total price of Stronger Stimulant the same but adding up more if choosing to spam T3 Brews. — Update notes |
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- Upgrade cost reduced ― $3,000 → $2,950
- Overall cost is unchanged (due to cost changes for previous tiers)
| “ | As a small tax to low tier Alchemists we are moving cost from Stronger Stimulant into Berserker Brew, this shouldn’t hurt much for general play and keeps un-discounted Stimulant the same. — Update notes |
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- Upgrade cost reduced ― $2,950 → $2,850
- Overall cost is unchanged (due to cost changes for previous tiers)
- Brews should no longer fall on other towers that aren't the intended target (bug fix)
- Note: Patches an exploit regarding quickly buying a Permanent Brew and landing brew on towers not normally able to accept brew (e.g. Etienne, Beast Handlers, non-5xx Villages)
Gallery
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In other languages
[edit | edit source]| Language | Name / Description | Notes | |
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| Arabic | محفز قوي إن مشروب المحارب شديد الغضب والهيجان القوي للغاية له تأثير أقوى على الهدف. الاستمرار لفترة أطول. |
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| Danish | Stærkere Stimulant Ekstra stærk beserkerbryg har endnu større effekt. Varer endnu længere. |
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| German | Stärkere Stimulanz Das extra starke Berserker-Gebräu hat einen noch kraftvolleren Effekt auf das Ziel. Hält noch länger an. |
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| Spanish | Estimulante intenso Un brebaje vesánico extrafuerte que tiene un efecto aún más poderoso sobre el objetivo. Dura aún más. |
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| Spanish (LA) | Estimulante intenso Un brebaje vesánico extrafuerte que tiene un efecto aún más poderoso sobre el objetivo. Dura aún más. |
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| Finnish | Voimakkaampi stimulantti Ekstravahva berserkkijuoma on entistäkin tehokkaampi. Kestää vielä pidempään. |
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| French | Stimulant plus fort Concoction de berserker super concentrée dont l'effet sur la cible est encore plus puissant. Dure encore plus longtemps. |
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| Italian | Stimolante super L'Infuso del Berserker extra forte ha ancora più effetto sul bersaglio. Dura ancora più a lungo. |
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| Japanese | 強い刺激剤 強めのバーサーカーの醸造酒で、標的にもっとパワフルな効果をもたらす。さらに長持ち。 |
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| Korean | 흥분제 강도 증가 초강력 광전사 약제가 대상에 미치는 효과가 더욱 강해집니다. 더욱더 오래 지속됩니다. |
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| Dutch | Sterkere stimulans Extra sterk berserkerbrouwsel heeft een nog krachtiger effect op het doelwit. Duurt nog langer. |
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| Norwegian | Sterkere stimulant Ekstra sterkt berserkerbrygg har enda sterkere effekt på målet. Varer enda lengre. |
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| Polish | Mocniejszy stymulant Ekstra mocny napój berserkera jest jeszcze skuteczniejszy. Działa jeszcze dłużej. |
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| Portuguese (Brazil) | Estimulante Mais Poderoso Poção Berserker extra forte que tem efeitos ainda mais poderosos sobre o alvo. Dura ainda mais. |
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| Russian | Сильный стимулятор Особо крепкое варево берсеркера ещё сильнее воздействует на цель, и эффект длится дольше. |
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| Swedish | Starkare stimulant Extra stark bärsärkbrygd som har ännu mera kraftfull effekt på målet. Varar ännu längre. |
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| Thai | สารกระตุ้นที่แรงขึ้น น้ำยาสกัดนักรบคลั่งสูตรพิเศษทำให้เป้าหมายได้รับเอฟเฟกต์ที่\nแข็งแกร่งยิ่งขึ้นไปอีก นอกจากนี้ยายังทำงานนานขึ้น |
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| Turkish | Daha Güçlü Etki Hedef üzerinde çok daha güçlü bir etkiye sahip ekstra kuvvetli öfke içeceği. Çok daha uzun sürer. |
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| Chinese (simplified) | 强效兴奋剂 超强啤酒对目标的作用更加显著。 |
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| Chinese (traditional) | 更強興奮劑 超强釀造對目標還有更强大的效果。持續更長時間。 |
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