Comanche Commander (BTD6)

For the upgrade in Bloons TD Battles 2, see Comanche Commander (Battles 2).

Comanche Commander

Upgraded weapons. Also automatically calls in 3 more Comanches. Permanently.

Tower	Heli Pilot — Path 3 — Tier 5
XP cost	50,000
Cash cost	$29,750 — Easy $35,000 — Medium $37,800 — Hard $42,000 — Impoppable

← Comanche Defense

Comanche Commander is the Heli Pilot's path 3 tier 5 upgrade in Bloons TD 6. This upgrade improves most of Heli Pilot's attacks, and summons 3 mini-Comanches permanently, instead of summoning them as Bloons reach different parts of the track. Upon purchase, the mini-Comanches spawn from the main helipad.

This upgrade also increases the damage of Heli Pilot's main darts from 2 to 4. The damage of its MOAB Shove missile is increased from 3 to 13, and its MOAB-Class damage from +5 to +8. All of its mini-Comanche's attack are improved, the damage of darts goes from 1 to 3, the damage of their rockets goes from 2 to 15 and the rockets' Ceramic damage from +2 to +10. The Heli Pilot's movement speed is increased by 10, including mini-Commanches.

Stats

For a complete list of Heli Pilot stats, see Stats:Heli Pilot (BTD6).

This data was last updated for: version 55.1

Tower
Display range 22 units Footprint 27 × 27 units Movement speed 50 units/s Targeting options Follow Touch Lock in Place Patrol Points

Attack
Cooldown 0.456s Offset (X, Y, Z) 13, 10, 0.42 (side 1) -13, 10, 0.42 (side 2) Targeting range 54.6 units Filters Cannot target Camo
Ignores blockers
Projectile Count 2 Pierce 3 Damage 3 Damage type Sharp Speed 416 units/s Lifespan 1s Radius 3 units Filters Cannot hit Camo Ignores blockers

Ballistic Missile
Cooldown 1s Offset (X, Y, Z) 0, 0, 0 Targeting First Targeting range ∞ units Filters Cannot target Camo
Ignores blockers
Projectile Pierce 1 Max pierce 1 Speed 270 units/s Seeking distance ∞ units Seeking angle 180° Seeking rotation speed 360 °/s Lifespan 7.4074s Radius 4 units Filters Cannot hit Camo Ignores blockers Explosion Pierce 30 Damage 15 Damage to Ceramic (excl. Ceramic Armor Shell) +2 Damage to MOAB-Class +8 Damage type Explosion Lifespan 0.1s Radius 18 units Filters Cannot hit Camo Ignores blockers

MOAB Shove
Radius 42 units Multiplier for MOABs ×-0.4 Multiplier for BFBs ×0 Multiplier for ZOMGs ×0.2 Multiplier for DDTs ×0.2 Filters Cannot affect Camo

Mini-Comanche

Tower
Display range 54.6 units Footprint radius 9 units Movement speed 75 units/s Targeting options Follow Touch Lock in Place Patrol Points Pursuit

Attack
Cooldown 0.228s Offset (X, Y, Z) 8.5, 7, 3 (side 1) 0, 12.03, 1.7 (side 2) -7.5, 7, 3 (side 3) Targeting range 54.6 units Filters Cannot target Camo
Ignores blockers
Projectile Count 3 Pierce 4 Damage 3 Damage type Sharp Speed 416 units/s Lifespan 1s Radius 3 units Filters Cannot hit Camo Ignores blockers

Ballistic Missile
Cooldown 3s Offset (X, Y, Z) 0, 0, 0 Targeting First Targeting range ∞ units Filters Cannot target Camo
Ignores blockers
Projectile Pierce 1 Max pierce 1 Speed 270 units/s Seeking distance ∞ units Seeking angle 180° Seeking rotation speed 360 °/s Lifespan 7.4074s Radius 4 units Filters Cannot hit Camo Ignores blockers Explosion Pierce 60 Damage 15 Damage to Ceramic (excl. Ceramic Armor Shell) +10 Damage type Explosion Lifespan 0.1s Radius 18 units Filters Cannot hit Camo Ignores blockers

1-0-5

Attack
Copies of this attack 1 → 2 Offset (X, Y, Z) 13, 10, 0.42 (side 1) -13, 10, 0.42 (side 2) ↓ 13, 10, 0.42 (primary 1) -13, 10, 0.42 (primary 2) 7, 13.5, 1.7 (secondary 1) -7, 13.5, 1.7 (secondary 2)

Mini-Comanche

Attack (secondary)
Cooldown 0.228s Offset (X, Y, Z) 6.09, 9, 1.7 (side 1) -5.18, 9, 1.7 (side 2) Targeting range 54.6 units Filters Cannot target Camo
Ignores blockers
Projectile Count 2 Pierce 4 Damage 3 Damage type Sharp Speed 416 units/s Lifespan 1s Radius 3 units Filters Cannot hit Camo Ignores blockers

2-0-5

Tower
Targeting options Pursuit

0-1-5

Tower
Movement speed 50 units/s → 80 units/s

MOAB Shove
Multiplier for MOABs ×-0.4 → ×-0.51 Multiplier for BFBs ×0 → ×-0.11 Multiplier for ZOMGs ×0.2 → ×0.09 Multiplier for DDTs ×0.2 → ×0.09

Mini-Comanche

Tower
Movement speed 75 units/s → 105 units/s

0-2-5

Attack
Filters Can now target Camo
Projectile Filters Can now hit Camo

Ballistic Missile
Filters Can now target Camo
Projectile Filters Can now hit Camo Explosion Filters Can now hit Camo

MOAB Shove
Filters Can now affect Camo

Mini-Comanche

Attack
Filters Can now target Camo
Projectile Filters Can now hit Camo

Ballistic Missile
Filters Can now target Camo
Projectile Filters Can now hit Camo Explosion Filters Can now hit Camo

Costs and sell values

Note: this list does not factor in Monkey Knowledge or other discounts.

Tiers	Total cost				Sell value
	Easy	Medium	Hard	Impoppable	Easy	Medium	Hard	Impoppable
0-0-5	$41,650	$49,000	$52,920	$58,800	$29,155	$34,300	$37,044	$41,160
1-0-5	$42,330	$49,800	$53,785	$59,760	$29,631	$34,860	$37,650	$41,832
2-0-5	$42,755	$50,300	$54,325	$60,360	$29,929	$35,210	$38,028	$42,252
0-1-5	$41,905	$49,300	$53,245	$59,160	$29,334	$34,510	$37,272	$41,412
0-2-5	$42,415	$49,900	$53,895	$59,880	$29,691	$34,930	$37,727	$41,916

Strategy

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This section was last updated for: version 52.2

A decent T5 that works well on maps with a lack of separated simultaneous lanes, and has a moderate cost but high synergy with blimp debuffs, especially Glue Storm, despite its lack of Alchemist and Overclock synergies. Comanche Commander is much cheaper than Apache Prime, having a much smoother transition in the mid-game to the T4 and T5.

Its preferred crosspath is 1-0-5, which increases DPS of the darts. Pursuit is optional, which helps micro-free use. Middle crosspath is less favored and is mostly for innate camo detection.

Update history

For a complete list of Heli Pilot changes, see Update history:Heli Pilot (BTD6).

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Version 1.7

•  No longer sometimes spawns twice as many mini-Comanches (bug fix)

Version 6.0

•  Mini Comanche: Sub-towers no longer gain double the effects of stat buffs such as Berserker Brew (bug fix)

Version 8.0

•  Mini Comanche: Now consumes Berserker Brew charges (bug fix)
  • Note: Still does not consume Acidic Mixture Dip charges
•  Mini Comanche: Now gains double buffs from Permanent Brew if the Alchemist is upgraded to Permanent Brew after the Mini Comanches appear (bug)

Version 11.0

•  Lock in Place and Patrol Points no longer immediately prompt to choose target positions and instead have default positions
•  After changing targeting off of Lock in Place or Patrol Points, changing back returns the target(s) to how it was previously
• "Heli Pilots should no longer cause save files to not load sometimes" (bug fix)

Version 17.0

•  Overall cost increased by $100 (due to cost changes for previous tiers)

Version 18.0

•  Mini Comanche: Movement speed increased ― 45 → 75
•  Mini Comanches will load in under the main Commander when loading a save instead of at the edge of the screen

0-1-5, 0-2-5

•  Bigger Jets now applies to mini Comanches

Version 19.0

•  Overall cost reduced by $1,500 (due to cost changes for previous tiers)

Version 21.0

“

Heli Pilot manages on pursuit far too easily without any need to consider Bigger Jets unless camo or downdraft is required. For more crosspath variety than just ‘camo’ we moved more of the base Heli speed out and back into Bigger Jets with an overall buff to Bigger Jets. This should allow Bigger Jets to scale a little better than other helis through early speed ramping.
— Update notes

”

•  Overall cost reduced by $1,500 (due to cost changes for previous tiers)
•  Movement speed reduced ― 56.25 → 50

0-1-5, 0-2-5

•  Movement speed reduced ― 83.75 → 80

Version 22.0

“

A little more buffing of underused crosspath
— Update notes

”

0-1-5, 0-2-5

•  Bigger Jets now allows MOAB Shove to push back faster
  • MOAB speed: -0.33 → -0.44
  • BFB speed: 0 → -0.11
  • ZOMG/DDT speed: 0.33 → 0.22

Version 28.0

“

MOAB Shove has had a missile attack similar to xx4’s mini comanches added to provide this path something extra for when the mini comanche are not active.
— Update notes

”

•  Missile attack added, with increased damage and pierce compared to the previous tier

Version 30.0

•  Main Comanche dart attack: Damage increased ― 2 → 3
•  Main Comanche missile attack: Attack cooldown reduced ― 3s → 1s (attack speed increased by 200%)
•  Mini Comanche dart attack: Pierce increased ― 3 → 4

Version 31.0

1-0-5, 2-0-5, 0-1-5, 0-2-5

•  Crosspathing Comanche Commander with any upgrade no longer reduces the damage of the main Comanche's darts by 1 (bug fix)

Version 33.0

“

Faster Darts xx1 upgrade will now increase the attack distance of Heli Dart attacks in order to assist with cluttering issues where large numbers of Helis will push each other away from nearby targets.
— Update notes

”

•  Overall cost reduced by $500 (due to cost changes for previous tiers)
•  Faster Darts now increases lifespan of dart attacks by 30%

Version 35.0

“

ComCom is both lacking in pierce damage, and favors the 105 crosspath more than we’d like. This goal for this change is to improve the overall single target power for the missile AoE without such a high pierce number, with only a smaller damage buff for the main darts so existing pierce benefits that can be applied for the main attack remain valuable
— Update notes

”

•  Dart: Damage increased ― 3 → 4
•  Main missile: Damage increased ― 3 → 7
•  Main missile: Damage bonus to MOAB-class increased ― +2 → +5
•  Mini missile: Damage increased ― 2 → 5
•  Mini missile: Damage bonus to MOAB-class increased ― +2 → +5
•  Heli 'patrol point' markers now visually update immediately after setting new points (bug fix)
•  Missile — main and mini: Pierce reduced ― 100 → 80

Version 37.0

“

Pushing some higher values on the last Comanche Commander changes as the missile attack is effectively such a small portion of the tower’s total damage late game.
— Update notes

”

•  Mini Comanche: Now inherits the parent tower's flight mode
•  Missile attack: Damage increased ― 7 → 15
•  Missile attack: Damage to MOAB-class increased ― +5 → +8
•  Mini Comanche missile attack: Damage increased ― 5 → 15
•  Mini Comanche missile attack: Damage to MOAB-class increased ― +5 → +8

Version 39.0

“

While the state of Comanche Defense has come a good way, xx5 still feels too expensive for what it offers.
— Update notes

”

•  Upgrade cost reduced ― $35,000 → $32,000

Version 41.0

2-0-5

•  Secondary main attack: Damage reduced ― 4 → 3 (no longer deals 1 more damage than the primary main attack) (bug fix)

Version 42.0

“

Comanche Commander’s value soared recently with buffs along with the recent Geraldo subtowers bugfix which solidified it as a strong lategame dps, and given the powerful synergies right now the current price feels far too low for what is now a solid pick for any map; we feel this may not be enough of a nerf but wish to hold off until v43 for further changes to be considered with this synergy.
— Update notes

”

•  Upgrade cost increased ― $32,000 → $35,000
•  Shove AoE: No longer ignores the children of the target it is shoving (bug fix)

Version 43.0

“

Overall Comanche cleanup and stats shuffle; with the goal of improving baseline non-buffed performance and making it less demanding of Geraldo’s Pickle for high damage.
— Update notes

”

•  Mini-Comanche dart: Damage increased ― 2 → 3
•  Mini-Comanche missile: Damage to Ceramics increased ― +1 → +10
•  Mini-Comanche missile: No longer does +8 damage to MOAB-class
•  Mini-Comanche dart: Attack cooldown increased ― 0.151848s → 0.228s (attack speed reduced by 33.4%)

Version 45.0

“

As MOAB Shove introduced a supportive mechanic at T3 but never expanded on this again we want to start playing around with this some more, it’s quite strong for a T3 so the slow amount was reduced but we’ve made the T4 now better than the T3 was before.
— Update notes

”

•  Shove: ZOMG/DDT speed while being shoved is lower ― 0.33× → 0.22×
  • Note: Also affects 0-1-X crosspath ― 0.22× → 0.11×.
•  Shove: MOAB speed while being shoved is higher ― -0.33× → -0.3×
  • Note: Also affects 0-1-X crosspath ― -0.44× → 0.41×.

Version 49.0

•  Overall cost increased by $300 (due to cost changes for previous tiers)

Version 51.0

“

MOAB Shove’s stalling potential was far too strong for how early and cheaply it becomes available, so we’re dialing back the ZOMG slow amount to keep its late-game impact more balanced. In return, Comanche Defense is getting an increase to these slowing capabilities, giving it the utility for controlling ZOMG movement.
— Update notes

”

•  MOAB Shove: Multiplier for MOABs decreased ― ×−0.3 → ×−0.4
  • Note: This means MOABs will be pushed back faster while being shoved
•  MOAB Shove: Multiplier for ZOMGs/DDTs decreased ― ×0.22 → ×0.2
  • Note: This means ZOMGs/DDTs move slower while being shoved

0-1-5, 0-2-5

•  MOAB Shove: Multiplier for MOABs decreased ― ×−0.41 → ×−0.51
•  MOAB Shove: Multiplier for ZOMGs/DDTs decreased ― ×0.11 → ×0.09

Gallery

For more Heli Pilot images, see Gallery:Heli Pilot.

Screenshots

• 
  Comanche Commander for all upgrades
• 
  Comanche Commander mini comanche
• 
  Comanche Commander helipad

Assets

• 
  Portrait
• 
  Upgrade icon
• 
  Insta Monkey icon

In other languages

Language	Name / Description	Notes
Arabic	قائد الكومانشي أسلحة مطورة. استدعاء في 3 كومانشات أخرى أيضًا تلقائيًا. بشكل دائم.	—
Danish	Støttehelikopter-kommandør Opgraderer våben. Indkalder også automatisk 3 Commanches - permanent.	—
German	Comanche-Kommandant Verbesserte Waffen. Ruft ebenfalls 3 weitere Comanches herbei. Permanent.	—
Spanish	Comandante Comanche Armas mejoradas. Además, llama 3 Comanches más de forma automática. Y son permanentes.	—
Spanish (LA)	Comandante Comanche Armas mejoradas. Además, llama 3 Comanches más de forma automática. Y son permanentes.	—
Finnish	Comanche-komentaja Päivitetyt aseet. Kutsuu myös automaattisesti 3 uutta Comanchea. Pysyvästi.	—
French	Commandant comanche Armes perfectionnées. Et invoque automatiquement 3 comanches de plus. De façon permanente.	—
Italian	Comandante Comanche Armi potenziate. Inoltre, chiama in automatico e permanentemente 3 elicotteri Comanche in più.	—
Japanese	コマンチ司令官 アップグレードした武器。３多くコマンチも自動的に呼ぶ。永久に。	—
Korean	코만치 사령관 무기가 업그레이드되었습니다. 역시 자동으로 3명의 코만치를 더 소집합니다. 영구히 말입니다.	—
Dutch	Comanche-commandant Geüpgradede wapens. Roept ook automatisch nog 3 Comanches op. Dit is permanent.	—
Norwegian	Comanche-kommandør Oppgraderte våpen. Kaller også automatisk inn 3 comancher. Permanent.	—
Polish	Dowódca Komanczów Ulepszone bronie. Dodatkowo automatycznie wzywa 3 Komanczów więcej. Na stałe.	—
Portuguese (Brazil)	Comandante Comanche Armas melhoradas. E também convoca automaticamente mais 3 Comanches. Permanentemente.	—
Russian	Командир команчей Улучшенное оружие. Также автоматически вызывает 3-х команчей. Навсегда.	—
Swedish	Comanche-befälhavare Uppgraderade vapen. Kallar även automatiskt in ytterligare 3 Comanches. Permanent.	—
Thai	ผู้บัญชาการโคแมนชี่ อัปเกรดอาวุธ และเรียกโคแมนชี่มาเพิ่มเติมอีก 3 ลำโดยอัตโนมัติ อย่างถาวร	—
Turkish	Komançi Komutanı Yükseltilmiş silahlar. Ayrıca otomatik olarak 3 Komançi daha çağırır. Kalıcı olarak.	—
Chinese (simplified)	科曼奇指挥官 武器升级。还可以自动召唤3架永久科曼奇。	—
Chinese (traditional)	科曼奇指揮官 升級的武器。同時自動再呼叫3個科曼奇。永久有效。	—
This list was last updated for: version 43.1